tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post7039087358766436490..comments2023-10-02T01:34:40.078-07:00Comments on The Truth About Nicotine: Email Message to Public CitizenVocal EKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08797128689808591929noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-29343634548144139422010-05-03T03:44:44.017-07:002010-05-03T03:44:44.017-07:00This is an informative and intelligent look at the...This is an informative and intelligent look at the Electronic Cigarette.I hope that they are not banned,DOOMING me to 3900+ chemicals as well as TAR! If the FDA were concerned about "people", they would be giving smokers free samples of e-cigarettes, which in turn would save or extend MANY lives!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-74822880959246076012010-05-02T14:35:27.076-07:002010-05-02T14:35:27.076-07:00Elaine, your letter actually underestimates the sa...Elaine, your letter actually underestimates the safety of e-cigarettes: "To put this quantity in perspective, consider the fact that a pack of Marlboros contains 11,190 ng/g of TSNAs."<br /><br />Although this is true, it could cause some confusion because the measurement of TSNA is in parts per billion, but there is more than one gram of tobacco in a pack of Marlboro--its actually closer to 20g. 20 x 11,190 = 223,800 nanograms of TSNA per pack. <br /><br />E-cigarettes and other products containing pharmaceutical grade nicotine like NRT's seem to have about 1ng of TSNA for every 2 milligrams of nicotine (ie. Njoy's 16mg/g cartridges have about 8ng TSNA). That means you'd need to vape nearly 28 liters of Njoy (or 27,975 1ml cartridges) e-liquid to have to have the same amount of TSNA as in one pack of cigarettes.The Devil's Thadvocatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03365914932648272702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-19953522476121168572010-05-02T14:22:48.471-07:002010-05-02T14:22:48.471-07:00Excellent rebuttle. Today marks my one year annive...Excellent rebuttle. Today marks my one year anniversary away from cigarettes using electronic cigarettes. I am totally, totally flabbergasted that our wonderful government, and groups like this "Public Citizen" who claims that they are the "voice of the people", don't really hear the voice of the people and jump on the band wagon to rid this nation of a groundbreaking device that will only end up saving thousands of lives each year, are so hell bent on removing them. It's no secret it's all about the money. Lets hope some positive response comes from this rebuttle.Jim Williamshttp://www.moonport.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-6490647140854116332010-05-01T13:36:36.117-07:002010-05-01T13:36:36.117-07:00Anonymous: Interesting. Some citizen opponents o...Anonymous: Interesting. Some citizen opponents of electronic cigarettes believe that Big Tobacco created and is promoting the products. Some members of the electronic cigarette community believe as you do that Big Tobacco is behind the push to ban the products. So far, the organizations that we have seen overtly stating they want the products banned are the ones I would have least expected to be opposed to something that helps people not to smoke: The 3-letter health organizations, along with anti-smoking organizations. Time will tell where BT stands on this issue.Vocal EKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797128689808591929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-47509012261572122412010-05-01T06:01:02.856-07:002010-05-01T06:01:02.856-07:00Rothenbj: You make some excellent points. Thanks...Rothenbj: You make some excellent points. Thanks for writing.Vocal EKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08797128689808591929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-569536998302598582010-04-30T20:17:06.042-07:002010-04-30T20:17:06.042-07:00Public Citizen, the voice of the people? The “hea...Public Citizen, the voice of the people? The “health” associations, organized to look out for our Health? Who are you the voice of? You certainly are not the voice for the 40 to 60 million smokers in this country. You certainly aren’t the voice for the friends and relatives of those smokers who would like to see their loved ones using a healthier alternative to deadly cigarettes. You certainly aren’t the voice for those non-smokers that have become knowledgeable about this new product that doesn’t effect them and they find as a much more favorable product than those cigarettes they dislike. So who do represent?<br /><br />Is it the Pharmaceutical industry and their use of nicotine to “cure” nicotine at outlandishly high profits and highly ineffective results? Maybe it’s their anti-depressant products, again at high profits with very dangerous consequences and poor results? Is it that you feel a sense of superiority in controlling those you have no right to control? Perhaps you like the fact that people will continue smoking real cigarettes? I can’t imagine any thinking logical person that can’t see that Electronic Cigarettes and other smokeless tobacco products are orders of magnitude safer for smokers, for people that come in contact with people that use these products and for the environment.<br /><br />I smoked for 43 years and tried like so many to quit using all these ineffective FDA approved methods only returning to cigarettes after they failed. I was smoking two to three packs a day at the end, and I do mean end, unless you get your way and I find no alternative that makes me comfortable except cigarettes. I don’t want that, those that have used these products to get off cigarettes don’t want that. Do you?psufan69https://www.blogger.com/profile/07894285485325166043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-24740236633730555882010-04-30T10:55:48.522-07:002010-04-30T10:55:48.522-07:00I picked up an E Cigarette on December 6, 2009 and...I picked up an E Cigarette on December 6, 2009 and I haven't smoked a cigarette since; this after 40+ years of smoking two packs a day! I haven't felt this good in years; that’s the only proof that I need!<br /><br />Misled (through junk science) well meaning people are being hoodwinked into jumping on the Ban the E Cigarette Bandwagon! This is being encouraged by greedy BIG Tobacco and Pharmaceutical Barons who stand to lose fortunes from the threat of a safer alternative to smoking. Not to mention the lost revenues from tobacco taxes that state and federal governments have at stake. <br /><br />I fail to see how banning E Cigarettes and chasing me (and others like me) back to a known killer (cigarettes) is in the best interest of the public’s health? I inhale more toxic fumes during my daily commute than I do from an E Cigarette!<br /><br />I wish the FDA would conduct legitimate (scientific method) research on E Cigarettes, alongside others, and just report their results. But, that would mean adhering to time honored concepts like peer reviews.<br /><br />I’m an adult; I am capable of making reasonable choices when presented with accurate (unbiased) information! I don’t need or want the FDA (or anyone else) dictating what I should or should not put in my body (or head for that matter); just report the findings!Bobhttp://www.truthaboutecigs.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-3450798518913963752010-04-30T09:22:05.701-07:002010-04-30T09:22:05.701-07:00I'm a 30 year smoker. I quit 4 days after gett...I'm a 30 year smoker. I quit 4 days after getting my e-cig in the mail. I haven't touched tobacco since. I feel great 4 months later.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-80172875211386136222010-04-30T08:13:30.964-07:002010-04-30T08:13:30.964-07:00Estimations say that there are between 300,000 and...Estimations say that there are between 300,000 and 800,000 people now using e-cigarettes in the U.S. alone, and more people are finding them every day. As Elaine said, we ARE the people. We are the people that have tried the NRTs, (7% quit rate combined with 36% of gum and lozenge users being chronic users.) tried to quit cold turkey, (10% success rate)and finally resigned ourselves to being life long smokers. We are the people that are getting support from our doctors because our health has improved so greatly.<br /><br />It is no wonder the FDA has absolutely no reduced harm tobacco products listed. They try to ban everything that qualifies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-54774146304999072762010-04-30T07:36:08.540-07:002010-04-30T07:36:08.540-07:00I speak for the people and the word is back the E-...I speak for the people and the word is back the E-cig, not big Tobacco.!!!<br /> <br /> If you speak for the people get a set of Balls and stand up against Phillip Moris,<br />R.J Renolds, and all the big tobacco companies that have been killing relentless numbers of people for hundreds of years now and back the Electronis Cigarette. Stop the big mighty dollar of the Big Tobacco companies from paying off people on the FDA and other groups and put the word out about these big payoffs and there Lobbing efforts to Ban the E-cig that save lives not destroys like the real cig's do, Big Tobacco is just paying off and buying who and what they want with there deep pockets and has a licence to Kill yet when it comes to a safer product like the E-cig they want to Ban this product cmon WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE PEOPLE AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM AND STOP BEING ON THE TAKE JUST LIKE SOME IF NOT MOST OF OUT GOV'T OFFICIALS. Bottom line is the E-Cig is hurting big tobacco so they are paying to try and crush it, but it's not going to happen the E-cig people are standing there ground, NOW BACK THE PEOPLE SINCE THATS A MISSION STATEMENT YOU MAKE.!!!!!<br /><br /> mwa1024@aol.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-26624003431716388372010-04-30T07:34:07.590-07:002010-04-30T07:34:07.590-07:00this org like others are nothin but flaming assho-...this org like others are nothin but flaming assho-es,care nothing but there own gain,this just proves itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-20596759060293464592010-04-30T06:30:33.126-07:002010-04-30T06:30:33.126-07:00I was a 46 year smoker. Tried to quit with every o...I was a 46 year smoker. Tried to quit with every option available, including cold turkey. I always picked the cigarette back up. <br /><br />Until the electronic cigarette. Within 6 days, I was vaping only. My cigarettes lay for weeks until I finally threw them out. It will be one year on June 23, 2010 since I switched to vaping.<br /><br />I have had pulmonary function tests done, and my lung function has improved by 80% already. I breathe better, sleep better, taste and smell so much better. The quality of my life has so greatly improved, I am still in awe of it!!<br /><br />How is that harmful?Katmarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-62042251086962029922010-04-29T23:49:42.128-07:002010-04-29T23:49:42.128-07:00Very interesting take... electric cigarette has gr...Very interesting take... electric cigarette has great potential, and are a great alternative for smokers and even for those who are not planning to quit the habit of smoking. They are rapidly gaining acceptance in US as well as other parts of the world too.electronic cigarette reviewshttp://e-cigcompare.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-68736618701608452002010-04-29T16:32:19.721-07:002010-04-29T16:32:19.721-07:00Electronic cigarettes are saving my life.
Why do t...Electronic cigarettes are saving my life.<br />Why do they want me to die?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-3598261471304038472010-04-29T16:27:40.700-07:002010-04-29T16:27:40.700-07:00It is extremely disheartening to see organizations...It is extremely disheartening to see organizations that supposedly "speak for the people" parroting the same tired negative propaganda against the e-cigarette. Apparently the millions of lives that could be dramatically improved by this device, and the many thousands that already have been, mean nothing to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-71145196807499353822010-04-29T16:08:57.011-07:002010-04-29T16:08:57.011-07:00Thank you for the time and effort you put into thi...Thank you for the time and effort you put into this outstanding post. Happily shared on my FB.Kim Hamakernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-68616956082831069692010-04-29T15:33:41.132-07:002010-04-29T15:33:41.132-07:00"As the surveys show, those who have switched..."As the surveys show, those who have switched to vaporized nicotine are enjoying the same kind of health benefits seen by those who quit all nicotine use. The real danger to public health lies with the possibility that FDA wins this case and immediately removes electronic cigarettes from the market. What will be the result?"<br /><br />I,(a former Cigarette Smoker of 27 yrs can answer this!), Thousands, if not hundreds of thousands will die NEEDLESSLY because they will more than likely have NO CHOICE but to return to the hazardous FDA approved/Big Tobacco endorsed carcinogen laden Cigarettes! This is both a travesty and shame to live in a Country so corrupt that Humanity takes a back seat because of Bureaucratic GREED!Eve Newsomhttp://www.evesrealisticreborns.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2419833097830199498.post-36544465400428953022010-04-29T15:20:02.296-07:002010-04-29T15:20:02.296-07:00Elaine, that is a superlative rebuttal. Just what ...Elaine, that is a superlative rebuttal. Just what on earth do these organisations think they are doing supporting the FDA's actions. Many thanks for taking the time to write such excellent exposes of their ignorance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com